[PROBLEMA] COMPROBAR si tu iPhone 6 usa memorias TLC o MLC.

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Algunos propietarios de iPhone 6 y 6+ están teniendo problemas de reinicios en sus iPhone.

El "problema afecta al 6 y 6+ en sus versiones de 64gb y 128gb. Vamos que si tienes un iPhone 6 o 6+ de 64 o 128gb este puede o no llevar memoria TLC.

Todos los de 16, en principio llevan memorias MLC

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Algunos modelos de iPhone 6 y iPhone 6 Plus con capacidades de 64 GB y 128 GB están presentando problemas aislados. Según parece, todo parece estar relacionado con el tipo de memoria Flash empleada por Apple, pudiendo ser MLC o TLC.

El problema está presente en las memorias flash del tipo TLC y su controlador, por eso, los usuarios que tengan cuelgues o problemas de reinicios continuos en su iPhone, deben acudir a una Apple Store para que le sustituyan su unidad defectuosa por una que no padezca del problema o, en su defecto, un iPhone 6 equipado con módulos de memoria MLC. ¿Cómo podemos saber si nuestro iPhone 6 tiene memorias MLC o TLC?

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Y no solo esto, las memorias MLC, al parecer, rinden mejor que las TLC.

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Apple iPhone 6 models have been the subject of controversy and swirling rumors lately due to constant rebooting issues. Industry insiders opined that the crashing and reboot loops, only present on specific iPhone 6 models, is due to the use of TLC NAND. TLC NAND is denser and marginally cheaper than its MLC counterpart, but suffers from less endurance and lower performance. Apple only uses TLC NAND in select models with a lot of storage, and the 64GB iPhone and the 128GB iPhone 6 Plus are perfect examples. Whether or not TLC is at the root of the issue remains up for debate, and reports are circulating that Apple will abandon TLC entirely. Kbench, a Korean benchmark developer, has released tests of the 64GB iPhone 6 with MLC NAND against the same model with TLC NAND.

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Unfortunately the released tests are limited to write benchmarking. TLC has inherent limitations with random write activity, but fares much better with read workloads. Mobile devices aren't subjected to as much heavy random write data as PC's, and as a general statement TLC fares well with sequential data. We mention this because these tests focused on random write data, which is the worst case scenario for mobile devices. Some read performance benchmarks would also be very helpful, and we are reaching out to Kbench for read performance results.

The Zero Fill test (at the top of the graphic) shows TLC blowing away the MLC competition. Zero Fill isn't a real-world test, it merely writes zero's to every address on the storage device. What isn't mentioned, however, is that this amazing speed with TLC hints at possible compression technology. It is interesting no one has connected the dots on this. SSDs that utilize compression and data reduction technology write Zero Fill data extremely quickly because compression algorithms can compress zero's so well that very little data actually hits the flash. One of the biggest challenges with TLC NAND comes on the endurance front. TLC NAND does not last as long as MLC NAND, and compressing the data results in less data actually written to the NAND, thus increasing endurance. Apple spent an estimated $500 million for Anobit, a company that was brought in specifically to increase the endurance of TLC NAND. Anobit doesn't entirely explain how they accomplish this feat, but adding compression in tandem with other techniques makes perfect sense.

The second graph denotes random write performance of MLC v TLC NAND. We expect lower performance from TLC NAND in random write workloads, and that is exactly what we get. TLC NAND is significantly slower, but the workload might not be representative of actual use-cases with mobile devices. While the results are interesting, they shouldn't be taken as a particularly damning assessment of iPhone 6 TLC performance. Sequential testing would be very relevant, but no information is currently available.


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Another interesting issue pops up in memory usage monitoring. The memory use of the device with TLC NAND is significantly higher than with MLC NAND. On the surface that might be a bit confusing, but there could be several reasons for this. We have seen recent advances in SSD technology that allow the host to manage the flash directly, and Apple may be using the processor to partially manage the flash. Another possibility is that in lieu of running a sophisticated compression algorithm on the SSD controller, Apple is simply using the iPhone 6's processor to accomplish the task. What would be most telling is if the researchers monitored the CPU usage during a write workload. Excessive CPU usage with TLC NAND on the iPhone 6 Plus would be a definite clue as to whether Apple is using the processor to aid storage performance.

Manufacturers always walk a fine line between cost and performance. If users cannot perceive a difference in performance there is no need to install the fastest storage available. At last check there haven't been any widespread complaints of some iPhone 6 models being slower than others, so the slower performance of TLC may still fall within an imperceptible range to the end-user. Interesting results indeed, we will keep you updated as we receive more information.


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Aquí un video de dos iphone, el de 16 es MLC y el de 128 es TLC, se puede apreciar que el MLC va más rápido.



Otro video encendiendo dos modelos, con memorias FLASH distintas, otra vez el de 16 es el MLC y el de 128 GB es el TLC




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El mío es de 64 TLC y de momento no he tenido problemas, veremos como responde Apple a este fallo y si llevará a cabo algún programa de remplazo.

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Segun ese programa, mi iphone 6 plus de 64 lleva memoria MLC, por lo que entiendo que lleva la buena no? emoticon angel

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Segun ese programa, mi iphone 6 plus de 64 lleva memoria MLC, por lo que entiendo que lleva la buena no? emoticon angel

[PROBLEMA] COMPROBAR si tu iPhone 6 usa memorias TLC o MLC.



lo tienes mal, tira corriendo a la apple store, ha de poner esto

[PROBLEMA] COMPROBAR si tu iPhone 6 usa memorias TLC o MLC.

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Mi iphone 6(4,7) de la 16gb me dice que es MLC ¿deberia cambiarlo?
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Perfon, veo que las MLC son las buenas y las TLC las chungas¿eso es no?
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Mi plus de 128gb es tlc, esta con jail, y desde que lo tengo (3 semanas) 0 reinicios... El de mi mujer (un 6 de 16gb) me lo tuvieron que cambiar, se re iniciaba cada dos por tres... A ver si tengo suerte...
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El iphone de mi mujer arranca MUCHO ANTES QUE EL MÍO.(el suyo es de 16...) espero que sea por tener jailbreak y no por la memoria...emoticon triste
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La buena es la MLC.
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Alguien con tlc ha actualizado a 8.1.1? Me gustaría saber si es verdad lo que pone en algunas webs que soluciona los problemas de estabilidad y velocidad....

Realmente mi plus tlc lleva 0 reinicios, pero ver que el de mi mujer (16gb y mlc) arranca como 10 segundos antes que el mío no me da gusto... Según he visto, EN PAPELES la tlc es más rápida que la mlc, aunque ya vemos que en la práctica no...


Alguien tiene a mano un tlc y mlc en 8.1.1 para ver los tiempos de encendido de ambos?
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Yo llevo la MLC tranquilo estoy.
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